Sophie Allison, the brainchild behind the indie-rock favorite, explains what informed her great new album, ‘Sometimes, Forever.’
For some , it can seem like you feel everything all at once , or nothing , with no in between . Being a Gemini - sun - Scorpio - rising , that ’s all too true for Sophie Allison ofSoccer Mommy — and it ’s a sentiment she explores while shut out her raw recordSometimes , Forever(out June 24 via Loma Vista Recordings ) , singing , " I do n’t know how to feel things small / It ’s a tidal undulation or nothing at all " on " Still . "
That wave of feeling has been a theme of the Nashville - based indie - rock and roll artist ’s music for years , from the pop - rock tunes about new beloved and ego - esteem on her 2018 studio debutCleanto the forcible and genial pain explored on 2020’scolor possibility . OnSometimes , incessantly , though , it ’s what cover the intact record , down to the form of address .
" The paper that ties [ the album ] together are these changeless oppositions and back - and - away — things that are constant but fading , and battle between unlike feelings , " says Allison . " When I was indite it , I was just writing about whatever happened in my life , but then look back on the rail , the themes that were come out to me were very opposing . "
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It makes for an excellent , engrossing phonograph recording about the dichotomy many of us feel — from balance drear and light emotion to the ecstasy of desire and the wariness of commit oneself in full to fuck . " For me , I can be very pulled into my emotions when I ’m find them and feel like I ’m always going to feel this means everlastingly , " Allison pronounce . " I have n’t been able-bodied to grasp easy the approximation of things being able-bodied to constantly be back and forth — that they ’re not always present—[but ] that ’s what inspired the record album in the end . "
Sometimes , Forevercontinues to perfect in on the personal songwriting that has resonated with Allison ’s fans for years , but sonically , it ’s the big record she ’s ever released . Removed from her days as a sleeping accommodation artist , she ’s found with uninhibited production and tilt arrangements that seek to capture the sweeping emotions she explores in her songs in a bold , at times eccentric manner . all told , it ’s secret — like Allison channeled push from crystals and a tarot deck of cards to create a record that has a sentiency of magic . We spoke to Allison about everything that inspire the record .
Oneohtrix Point Never
From the attack of make the record album , Allison was activated about the idea of process with producer Daniel Lopatin , who releases medicine under the monikerOneohtrix Point Never . screw for his solo electronic work , tons accompanyingSafdie brothersfilms likeGood TimeandUncut Gems , and producing some ofThe Weeknd’srecords , he ’s gained a reputation as one of the most eclectic experimentalists in production . Allison knew from the get - go that he could avail to capture what she was travel for , which falls somewhere between encapsulating a resilient phone and create something mystical .
The way [ my collaboration with Daniel Lopatin ] came about was my recording label send over a list of producer ideas and he was on it , and I was really stoke about it . As presently as we get to out and he was concerned , I was likethat ’s what I need to do .
I was unquestionably a fan of his . He does so many interesting , different thing . He ’s definitely not a one - trick pony . [ As far as my favorite music of his , ] I take heed toRiftsa peck , which is basically all the other record album together , but it ’s nice because I can mind to them in one place with this long lead lean for three hours . I also get laid all of the soundtrack he ’s done , and I really wish his work with The Weeknd . I thought that was fairly awe-inspiring and further showcased his ability to be concerned in luck of different genres and be capable to take them , make them cool , and have a bit of his flair on it , but not take away what ’s at the core of an creative person ’s art .
I ’ve also always been crack into his ambient music and thought it was so beautiful and well - composed . That ’s a bounteous part of why I wanted to work with him , because I need to make this album that had a intuitive feeling of us playing together as a lot live , but then also this magical ambience with synths and an orchestrated backing with it . I wanted it to have this witching chemical element , on top of something that was really dependable to the bouncy auditory sensation , and I thought he ’d be great at that . I do n’t really even worry — like , maybe it could be brainsick and not gel well , or it could be astonishing — but I require to examine it . We ended up being super on - the - same - page about everything , and that made it really easy and fun .
’90s alt rock and ’80s goth music
With her buzzing riffs , Soccer Mommy has become synonymous with ' 90s alt rock ‘n’ roll ever since her breakout albumClean . OnSometimes , incessantly , she continues to find inspiration within that genre . And yet she apply the studio pecker at her disposition to go even big , like on the track record ’s lead single " Shotgun , " or more distorted - vocalise , like on the opener " Bones . " In plus to a ' 90 vibration , the singer - ballad maker also looked to another reference of nostalgia to capture what she was going for , dipping into ' 80s goth on track like the plush " With U " or the eery , woozy " Unholy Affliction . "
Before we got in the studio apartment , [ Lopatin and I ] texted a bunch back and onward about product theme . Dan would send a Jesus and the Mary Chain vocal and be like , " The drums on this one are perfect , " or commit a Portishead song and be like , " I desire it to have these variety of dynamic , " so it was a mint of references for specific parts . Dan was really into a wad of The Magnetic Fields ' stuff [ in terms of ] production expressive style ideas .
There was a stack of ' eighty music going in there , with a lot of tike rock . There ’s so much [ influence of ] The Cure or The Smiths . It ’s got this tike element , but it ’s also catchy and kind of upbeat . There are strain like " Shotgun , " " With U , " or " Bones " on the record that still have this pop - sway element to them , but we want to be capable to give them a cool sound that was n’t just like everything that is go on currently in indie euphony .
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We were really trying to follow this [ concept ] of getting these cool - sounding dance band take that have a lot of character . mostly , I feel like the drumfish are kind of the most important part of that sometimes , but , in all , the intention was getting character there and then being able to add round the bend synths or overdub the guitar , 12 strings , and overgorge like that that would give it a slight strangeness and magic behind something that otherwise could be reasonably accessible .
Fantasy pop culture
There ’s multiple birdsong on the disk that are dark , but they ’re dark in a fantasy aspect — like ghosts , demons , and stuff like that . A song like " Darkness Forever , " for example , even the demo had this creepy vibration that lead us to throw it how we did in the studio . [ Lyrically , ] it ’s this story of someone losing their mind and burning their planetary house down to absolve the demon that are inside of them and in the business firm . It ’s dark , but the lyrics and the story within there — if you really think about it — are a goofy fantasy bit . It ’s the same thing with something like " Fallen Eyes , " which is this wraith revulsion - story thing , but supposed to have that little bit of thaumaturgy .
I did n’t want it to be an record album that ’s completely dark , presuppose to be terrifying , and something you may only take heed to when you ’re in a really emo mood . I want it to be fun and exciting , and to feel that magic — even in songs that are n’t lyrically illusion - driven . A Sung dynasty like " ivory " has all these watery , washy guitar and synths croak on . I desire that conjuration to be present everywhere — to make Song that could be relatable or aroused about love . I wanted there to be a second constituent of being able-bodied to find mystic .
There ’s so much fantasy whoreson that I love , and I love sci - fi , too , which can go into that humanity . I ’m a hugeBuffy the Vampire Slayerfan . I watchVampire DiariesandCharmed . One late show I really have a go at it is Netflix ’s resilient - actionWinx . Anything vampire - related I will keep an eye on , and I ’ll also watch anything like theUnderworldandBlademovies . They ’re both super sinister and overstrung , but it has this lighthearted action , almost a goofiness to it . That ’s the matter I love about fantasy : It can be mystical like fairies and dragons , or it can go completely the other way and be really goth with vampires and werewolves .
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Gothic aesthetics
Allison ’s affinity for barbarian and fantastic factor even dip into the aesthetics skirt the record . Sheteasedsingles on Dungeons & Dragons - animate baseball game scorecard and the medicine video for " castanets , " which she forge on with frequent confederate Alex Ross Perry(the filmmaker behindHer Smell ) , takes place in the quintessential goth setting ( a dungeon / cemetery , obviously ) . Like a psychic visual sense of form , it ’s the commission she know was go to go for , and it seamlessly came together while act upon with Perry .
I told my manager I wanted to ask Alex Ross Perry to work with me on [ another euphony ] video , and I had this idea that I want to do a performance video with the band because it ’s been so long since we did one and it ’s a completely unlike band now . That also means less pressure on me to be on tv camera . I had this idea of being in a dungeon or somewhere Isidor Feinstein Stone — like , I really could picture stone wall , some kind of cellar or something like that , and I was playing in there with standard candle . Then I had this other idea of mixing it up with other shot at some point , in a field with flowers or something .
Alex ended up texting me , " Basically , I ’m thinking we do a really nice stone - gray backdrop with whitened flowers — kind of play with thing that are exceedingly uncolorful and colored . " I was like , " Yeah , that ’s actually on the nose what I was opine . "
We [ determine on Greenwood Cemetery , which is ] a large cemetery in Brooklyn . I ’ve always really loved burying ground . That ’s kind of morbid , but I think they ’re always so beautiful and there ’s so much history . I do n’t find it that sad or cheerless because it just feel like there ’s account , spirits of multitude , lots of beautiful flowers , and nature enmesh together . Alex and I were just in melody , did n’t even have to hash out any influences , and knew instantly what we were sound to be doing .
Romantic comedies and teen movies
Although there are n’t any direct mention to teen pic or read-only memory - coms onSometimes , Forever , their languorous , cinematic quality are an integral part to Soccer Mommy in many means . Their mental imagery feeds into her music video — like theone for " Shotgun"that finds her on a picture show set of what looks like a picturesque teen bedroom — and she ’s made references to them on strain like the single " fixed storage com 2004 . " But above all , they ’ve inform her storytelling - focus songwriting style for years .
I care to romanticise everything in my lifetime in my mind . It ’s not in a unmediated way where I watch a rom - com and I ’m mean about a scene and I write something , but it decidedly influences me . I could be mad at somebody , and I ’m imagining this dramatic vista in my brain . I in spades can be write a Song dynasty that ’s conjecture to be a love song and I ’m trying to find where to start with it , where to go with it , what the story is . Even with old songs like"Scorpio Rising,“when I ’m writing something like that , I ’m trying to visualize this movie setting and progress that can lead through the song a bit because you have to have a story in those variety of songs . You have to have a situation to commence , a place you ’re going to end , and a divine revelation , which is precisely what a rom - com does . I unquestionably use all of the tropes and the image that I ’ve acquired from view many of them over the years in my Einstein to create my own phantasy .
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